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total responsibility for his maladroit reference to the people who had given up on politically. the people he said who refused to quarried the burden that they should. in the end, too many people felt like they belonged in that 47% in romney's eyes and couldn't bring themselves to make that man their leader. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, battleground michigan. president obama went to michigan today to confront a crisis that began there. but that matters to every state in the country. republicans in michigan, despite losing to state by 3 million votes to president obama have launched an extreme attack on core democratic policies. they are now pushing a far right agenda to go take down union
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rights and women's rights. we've seen this in wisconsin and ohio and virginia. now, it's in michigan. president obama went to an au auto-plan where he ripped the gop plan and crippled the state's labor unions. >> what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your rights to bargain for better wages. [ applause ] >> you know, these so called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics, they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money.
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you only have to look to michigan where workers were instrumental in reviving the auto industry to see how unions have helped build not just the stronger middle class, but a stronger america. >> the president is right. it's not about economics. it is about politics. the state's republican governor, rick snyder, says he'll sign the right to work bill into law. even though he opposed this kind of anti-union push earlier this year. >> right to work is an issue that's a very devicive issue. people feel very strongly about it. so right to work is an issue that might have its time and place but i don't believe it's appropriate in michigan during 2012. >> how do you go from devicive and not appropriate to sure, i'll sign. just give me a pen?
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snyder has simply misled voters in michigan. this weekend, the detroit free press, a paper that endorsed snyder two years ago, read an editorial blasting his vote. calling him dishonest and grotesquely disingenuous. what's going on here? who's behind all of this? turns out it's some familiar faces. the coke brothers are up to their old tricks. these billionaires are helping to fuel the anti-union drive in michigan. the same way they did in wisconsin for governor scott walker. their goal now is the same as it was then. cripple unions in order to pad their corporate profits and take down a key source of support for the democratic party. in this election, conservative groups dominated outside spending. of the top 15, 11 were republican. just four were democratic.
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and two of those were unions. folks, this is their strategy. they need to weaken unions. since then, the democratics only bulwark who can pour money into campaigns. they're attacking billionaire workers for political gain. it's cynical. it's reprehensible, and it has to stop. joining me now is gretchen whitmore and now an economics professor at the university of california. his latest book is called "beyond out rage." senator, there will be final votes and a big protest on this plan tomorrow. what's going to happen? >> well, that's right. we are expecting thousands of people here at the capitol because people are angry. this governor, if the 11th hour under cover of dark in a lame
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duck session came out and did an about face on an issue that he said was too devicive for michigan. now they're trying to ram it through without any hearings. last week, they locked people out of the capitol. people are angry. they're going to show up tomorrow and let their voices be heard. this bill is anti-family. it's ae ee's anti-union, it's anti-america. >> senator reich, when you look at this, it was attempted in wisconsin and in virginia and in ohio. the bigger picture here is they're using legislation to really cripple their political opponents all over the country. and enhance corporate profits without having really any way for redress from the american workers. so this is not just a michigan issue or wisconsin issue or ohio issue. this is really a national strategy by the right wing. >> it is a national strategy by the right wing, al.
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it's also a new form of class warfare. the republicans and the coke brothers and other billionaires have declared war on american unions. but american unions are the representatives of the middle class, the working class. they are the means by which most americans, even today, in many industries, have the bargaining power they need to get at least decent wages. you take away unions and there's really nothing left. and this is actually worse. what's happening in michigan is worse than what happened in wisconsin because in wisconsin, you had governor scott walker going after public employee unions. here, in michigan, you've got a blank check. you're basically saying we are declaring war on all unions. >> now, when you look at this, senator whitmore, first of all, when we talk about how the corporate supporters of the right wing are behind this, let's look at the fact that the michigan and the coke brothers. americans for prosperity
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recruited 300 supporters to demonstrate in front for this bill in favor of the bill. key bill sponsors are members of the coke-funded ally. so there's a direct connection in here. and they waited until after the election day. the governor said that this was inappropriate. that he wasn't for it. and, all of the sudden, after the election day, before the new legislature is sworn in in january, where they lost some seats without any notice they're ramming this through. >> that's right. i mean, let's look at what's happening in the election. here, in michigan, mitt romney's home state, or one of his home states, president obama just trounsed him. debbie stabinaw did extremely well. these are pro-worker, pro-women's rights candidates. and somehow, the republicans looked at that and said we're not extreme enough? we're all scratching our heads.
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how do they come back to lansing and say we haven't driven an agenda that's anti-woman and anti-worker enough? how on earth can they draw that conclusion? we've rejected the anti-woman agenda of the republicans in this last election and here they go again. >> now, when you look at the question of women, the headlines showing michigan trying to pass anti-choice, anti-women bills in this lame duck session. secretary reich. so we have them going after the democratic party. going at labor unions who have been the main resources for them. going at people's -- the middle class, as you said, who need unions to protect their livelihood. and, while we're at it, let's take a shot at women's rights. >> yeah. they're going after all of this, allen. this really is the legacy of citizens united in 2010. you see, all of this money, what
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the supreme court did, and it did it knowing full well what would happen. and it's not just the federal level. it is more insidious at the state level, at the local level. that's where a lot of these right wing groups are actually making the most headway with the money that's coming from the coke brothers and sheldon and others that are anti-union, anti-women, anti-gay. and what they are doing is trying to use, at the local and state levels, their kind of very virulent politics against average, working people. against women. against minorities chl and this is really under the radar screen of most of the media because most of the media are focusing on washington and on the budget deficit deficit and on the fiscal cliff negotiations. this is where the rubber meets the road. this is where it's actually happening at the state level. at the local level. this is where all of that money that was released into the political system by citizens united is actually now paying off.
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>> yeah, and that is what's frightening nationwide because citizen's united opens the door everywhere. and we're seeing them searching for a model on how to do this. that is why even the detroit free press, in an editorial, and, again, this is a paper that had endorsed governor snyder two years ago. it says the right to work champions, the determination to emasculate once and for all the democratic parties most reliable source of financial and organizational support. now, senator, let me say this to you. if they can get away with it in michigan, michigan has 671,000 union members, 17.5% of the work force, fifth highest in the nation. if they can get away with it in michigan, they feel they can just steam roll all over the country. >> i think everyone should be
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worried what happens in michigan tomorrow and in the coming months. we know that unions are people. we're talking about people. we're talking about our nurses and our teachers and our social workers, our first responders, our corrections officers. we're talking about people. this is the middle class. these are families that are going to be impacted by this. for what? this is about politics and nothing more. these guys want to spin it that it's about something bigger. and it's just not true. this is about people's lives. and, you know, we can't afford to let this happen. and if it happens in michigan, it could happen anywhere. >> senator whitmore and secretary reich, thank you for your time. we're going to be watching this closely and hope to have both of you back on. >> thanks very much. >> thank you. >> ahead, mitt romney spotted in ver vegas watching a boxing knock t knockout. kind of fitting for a party searching for a leader, mayor of
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san antonio, julian castro joins us live. plus, rnc chair rich previs. we've checked it and it's not a hoax. and the living legend, harry belafonte, one of the great entertainers' activists of our time joins us with activist kerry kennedy. they're teaming up for civil rights. don't miss this. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. >> typical mid kal class family of four will see an income tax hike of around $2200. how many of you can afford to pay another $2200 in taxes? not you? no, i didn't think so. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables.
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republicans still don't get it. they're still saying they lost the election because they had the wrong tone. they were atoal. okay. now i get it. dig army, one of the coke brother guys. >> we had a lot of candidates, quite frankly, that did dumb things out there. we had at least two candidates that should have won that, frankly, lost because they said some stupid things on the subject that their party's leader should have schooled them to stay away from in the first place. >> saying stupid nings. it's all about the message, not the policiepolicies.
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and we've heard it before. texas senator elect ted cruz said this quote. you want to know why obama won 71% of the hispanic vote? tone on immigration kriblted. but i think far more important was the 47%. that's what the word tone comes in again. i'm sure self deportation had nothing to do with it. and then there's carl-on-the-air-meltdown rove who said what splinters the republican party is intolerant jujtsmental language. judgmental language? this tone thing is catching on with them. >> they also don't need to be saying stupid things. we had candidates in indiana and missouri that said offensive things that not only hurt themselves but also hurt the republican party. >> for anyone who wants to live their piece of the american dream, we have to show that they're serious about reaching out and helping everyone. not just a group here or there.
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>> they have to show they're seersz. then start changing the policies, not the message. america is waiting. joining me now is a rise star in the democratic party. major julian castro. mr. major, it's a pleasure, first of all, having you on the show. >> great to be with you, reverend. >> why isn't the gop getting the message? >> well, that's a good question. and you had a couple of clips there that are so indicative of where the party is right now. after the november 6 election, they recognize that there's a problem. and particularly because anywhere from 71-75% of the latino community voted for president obama. a high water mark since bill clinton's reelection against bob dole in '96. they just don't know what to make of it. and the first thing they
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gravitate toward is this old line of having to change the tone or the message. what they're not getting is it's not just about changing the tone. it's not just about not talking ablt electrified fences and not being uncivil. it's also about fundamentally changing the policies that they embrace. being more willing to engage in conversations and discussions and actually get comprehensive reform done. get the dream act done. think about and include the latino community as part of the fabric, the family of the united states, which it clearly is and always has been, when they think about the latino community, you can tell that both in tone and in policy, they think of it as something foreign. and that's not the case at all. so they need to improve both the tone, but, more importantly, they need to change the policy behind the party. >> talking about policy, the president is poised to make a push for immigration reform after the new year.
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the los angeles times reports, and i'm quoting, as soon as the confrontation over the fiscal policy winds down, the obama administration will begin an all-out drive for comprehensive immigration reform, including seeking a path to citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. we will see then where the repub lip cans are. what do you hope to see in the immigration reform if it is real and meaningful to bring us toward a better place in the country, mr. mayor? >> my hope is that comprehensive immigration reform will be just that. it's going to be comprehensive. it's going to include additional mushes that we secure our borders. it's going to include ways to work with employers so that we ensure that fewer employers hire folks who are here undocumented. and, third u it's going to include a pathway to citizenship, to full citizenship, for the 11 or 12 million folks who are here who are undocumented, illegal,
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whatever term folks want to use. who i believe should be addre addressed and we've heard in the last couple of weeks, some heartburn among republicans who are now just starting to consider the idea of comprehensive immigration reform as to whether they want to actually allow folks to become full-flejed citizens. right now, that seems to be the fault line. my hope is that enough republicans will see that they ought to allow a path to citizenship. find people. make sure they learn english. put them at the back of the line but ensure that there is a path to citizenship. >> now, 6 2% of americans polled support that illegal immigrants can earn citizenship. and even since the election, we're seeing republicans have sounded far more pro-immigration than before. listen to this. >> we need to have what is good
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economic policy for america on immigration. because we do need labor. we need skilled workers and unskilled workers. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. >> i think the comprehensive approach is long overdue. and i'm confident that the president, myself, others can find the common ground to take care of this issue once and for all. >> now, when you hear what they were saying before the election, when you look back, mr. mayor, at the last couple of years with some very, very, in my opinion almost unpardonable legislation and immigration. now, we marched in arizona where immigration was really profiling. why do you think all of the sudden we're hearing a new tone? is it because the latino
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community seemingly striking at them and other immigrants? >> it was a very important moment for the latino community because, for the first time, on a major issue, the latino community could see that the fact that it came out, that it turned out in the presidential election made a huge difference. it could make a huge difference in terms of the policy direction of this country, specifically on immigration reform. and it's night and day. i mean, you play their clips before the election and after the election. and, as folks say, elections have consequences. and one of the consequences is, and the republican party recognizes, is that they need to support comprehensive immigration reform. now, hopefully, they can work that out. >> one of the things that i think you brought home during the democratic convention is the personal investment that many latino scitizens have and those that want to be in trying to attain the american dream. this is not something anti-american. this is pro-american by people
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that are citizens here. and want to see their families get what americans have promised the world. yeah, you know, so many times during these last couple of years for this immigration dewad debate has been raging. i've listened to americans talk about imgrants, in particular, latinos as though they're foreign and bring different values to the counsel tri. i represent san antonio. and we have latinos who have been here for generations. been serving in the military. been getting good education, they're professionals. they bring the same faith, the same values, the same work ethic that have made america great. in fact, they have been part of making america great. so, during this debate that we have in congress, i hope that folks will recognize that this community that they're talking about is a community that has been contributing greatly to the success of the united states. it's not a johnny-come-lately
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community. >> mayor julian castro, thank you for your time tonight. ahead, newt gingrich on a hillary clinton run in 2016. why he has his own party fuming today. glen beck is back. he may be joining forces with jim "i quit the senate" demint. what a pair. stay with us for that one. [ male announcer ] now's the perfect time to buy an adjustable version
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wins, he's going to win very narrowly because i still think the polls are over-estimating democrats. huh? how did that work out? then there's republican committee man henry barbour. he tweeted either it's going to be a historic dem turnout or the polls are too waited. another read, keep celebrating prematurely. america does not want to vote for obama. hmm, i hope this review goes better than the election predictions. joining me now, washington correspondent for news week and dana millbank, columnist for the washington post. thank you both for being here. >> hi, reverend. >> so the republicans have a blue ribbon panel. do you think they are ready to learn the lessons of this election? >> i think that you can disregard everything these guys
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said leading up to the election because they talk a good game and they have to have the, you know, bravado and whatnot. now, they really want to be back in power. and they've got to sit down and hammer out what's going to get them there. the problem is, the party can't decide. half of them think it's because mitt romney is too liberal and wasn't enough of a kind of d distinction from obama and half of them think he was just a lousy kacandidate for others reasons and maybe may should have gone with -- i don't know. jeb bush? part of the problem here is that the party itself can't decide what it wants to be. they have to solve this identity crisis on some level. >> now, you know, dana, bill crystal has a weekly stand in. very interestingly, he puts here that they're in deep disarray, the conservative movement. and he says one is reminded of
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eric coffers remark. he quotes every great cause begins as a movement becomes a business and e venn usually degenerates into a racket. it may be that major parts of the american conservativatism h become such a racket that a refounding of the movement as a cause is necessary. quite an indictment. but he's really sighing that what the conservative movement that we saw from the days of william f.bucley, jr., has gone to business and is now becoming a rack et and can they turn it back into a movement? >> well, i mean u it's a powerful analysis, particularly, because bill crystal was part of this movement that brought them to this point. it doesn't seem even controversial if you look at it objectively, what he's saying. i love this notion that they've got to put together a panel and investigate what went wrong in
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the election as if it's some weird kind of formula. but i think michelle, and you, reverend, and i, can save them all of this money and tell them right now what happened here. they don't have to have this commission. they are becoming a party of conservative, white males from the south in a country that doesn't look like that. that's it. full stop. they don't need to waste their precious party dollars on anymore studies of this. >> but, michelle, you see some interesting things developing for senator jim demint, about to be former senator jim demint. was on glen beck talking about how the two of them can work together. >> you can be a huge help because i think you've -- you've kind of brought a softer touch to what we're talking about. communication, which you're a big part of, is going to be key. so we're going to have to parter in with people in the media. >> jim, i -- go ahead. i would love to sit down with you a.s.a.p. >> now, i mean, this kind of
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personalities, like glen beck and them, aren't they part of what drove them all the way to the far right? >> well, look, jim demint has always been one of the biggest clampons of the most con sefbtive wing of the party in the senate. now he's headed out of there and there's much debate about whether he did it because he was kind of tired of not getting his way in the snat or whethenate o he'll make a huge difference where he can kind of run this think tank and fund candidates through the committee over there. but these two are quite the cozy pair. and i think they're just kind of ie dee logically similar pat koe anyway. >> now, on "meet the press" yesterday, dana, newt gingrich argued that hillary clinton is nearly impossible for the current gop to beat in 2016. listen to this.
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>> she's very formidable, as a personal. and is a very competent person. she is married to the most popular democrat in the country. every republly can should be focused on what we just talked about. if their competitor in 16 is going to be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably a still-popular president barack obama, trying to winl that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> dana? >> newt gingrich's crystal ball has had some difficulties before because he predicted that this year we would have president newt gingrich, which didn'texac pated. he makes a valid point about hillary. it's not that surprising. but also, and i think we've discussed this before, it seemed very likely that the party that
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won in 2012 would be in a formidable position in 2016 because of where the economy is likely to be because of where it was in 2012. so the incumbent party, the democrats in this case, are going to be in a very strong position. and if hillary is the nominee, obviously, she's going to be the beneficiary of that. >> i just love a world where after being bill clinton's presidency, now gingrich is one of the great clinton champions, along with much of the republican party. it has been fast nating to see the republicans embrace hillary clinton, in particular. >> he also doesn't know how popular president obama is. but i'm going to have to leave it there. i was going to talk about governor romney was at the fight the other night where the losers who he visited. but maybe we eelt wait and get a blue ribbon panel on what paciao lost the fight. thanks for your time tonight.
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>> thanks, reverend. >> ahead, the fat-free world comes to a screeching halt on national tv. wait until you see my colleague, lawrence o'donnell, and what he did with newt gingrich onset. and two of the world's biggest ambassadors for act virgin islands. kerry kennedy and harry belafonte are here to talk about their latest civil rights fight. stay with us. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair
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republicans in congress may be channelling ebenezer scrooge. last night, the first family even got to meet some of santa's little helpers. >> release the elves. come on down. hey, elves. what's your name? give me a hug. good to see you. everybody look up and say cheese. >> cheese. >> cheese. >> and let's say merry christmas. >> merry christmas. >> ho, ho, ho. >> the obamas met the elves while attending a benefit concert for the national medical children's center that featured stars like conan o'brien. president obama emphasized the importance of helping other kids
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we're back with the changing tides in american politics. republicans trying to figure out who they want to be when they grow up. president obama trying to set the agenda in the second term. for political activists, it's time to keep focused. there's a lot of work to do. i spoke recently with two of the country's leading activists. believe me. their to-do list is jam-packed. joining me now, kerry kennedy. daughter of robert and ethel
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kennedy. and entertainer, singer, activist extra activist extraordinary, the one and only harry belafonte. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> great to be here. >> thanks for having us. >> kerry, you have a lot going on with the r.k. cent ir and we'll talk about that in a moment. but, first, let's talk about where we are in politics right now. after the election, you grew up in a political family. do you think the president is in a strong decision to get a budget deal that's asking for a little bit more from the risk in this country with wealthy americans? >> absolutely. i think that that was the endorsement of the election. and i think he should fight hard for it. why should the -- why should our financial troubles be put on the backs of the people who are least able to afford it, the
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poor in this country. that's who we need to have compassion for. and that's who we need to lift up. and the rich should pay more. >> mr. belafonte, you have fought for decades -- >> you used to call me harry? >> all right, harry. you faulgt for decades for some of the "entitlements" that the right wing wants to try and balance this budget, balance the deficit off of. as you look at this, medicaid, medicare, social security, you're been an activist leader from roosevelt, eleanor roosevelt through doctor king and obama. how do you view this as a challenge today? >> what i think has most attracted me through this whole process is watching the political maturity of the american people. there was a great question during the first election as to
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whether or not barack would be elected. after, after the turnout shows emphatically, would put him in the presidency u it's interesting to watch the second term. well, the american people, in their maturity, declared themselves fully. we want what barack obama is talking about. we want a kothe country to go i that direction. what fascinates me, the whole political establishment defining its game, that there should be this lingering infestation of really corrupt people. who sit trying to dismanting the wishes of the people, the mandate that has been given to barack obama. and i don't know what more they want. the only thing left for barack obama to do is to work like a third-world dictator and just put all of these guys in jail.
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you're violating the american desire. >> that leads me to my next question. you're both big supporters of human rights. and republicans are hurting that night. we've seen right wing republicans like you in the senate. it would ban people's discrimination with disabilities, it models itself after the americans with disability act. it was first signed by president george w. bush. how can we get these done with this kind of obstructionism is the u.s. senate? >> well, it's a challenge. and i think that, you know, one of the things that my uncle ted kennedy was so great at is bringing people together. and trying to create personal relationships, which made people want to compromise and want to come to some sort of understanding with one another. i think that we need more of that, in general u with the tea party.
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i think it just can't be done. those are people who came to washington saying we want to destroy it. and that's what they're there for. so it's very, very hard to get any kind of movement. >> is there a way to move this harry in a way back toward trying to put the people and human rights of people back as a priority rather than see the oba obstructionists just block everything? >> i think we're on that path and we should not be deterred or distracted by what the right wing does. but i just have to also make an observation that the work that the r.f.k. center does, in its work for instance in uganda, which is going to be pa rt of african policy right now in uganda, we're helping to support bills in the uganda legislation to make homosexuality punishable by death. and they're getting ready in a few days -- >> that's right. >> explain that, kerry.
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because because i think,ed r had it not been for the r.f.k. center, many of us who call ourselves active wouldn't know about this. >> that's right. and it's winded its way through the political process and the speaker of the house has promised that she would pass it as a christmas present to the ewe beg ewe ugandan people. >> it's irony. for these people to be pushing this bill through that says homosexuality is punishable by death. and they have already begun to destroy lives. >> i want to ask you. i know this is an important year for the r.f.k. center. you're holding an auction with many interesting items, including dinner with harry belaf ourks nte. >> how about that.
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>> tell us about the auction and tell us what you're doing with this. >> so there are -- there's something for everyone in this auction. so you can come right here to the msnbc studios. you can go to the "morning joe show" or "chris hayes" or "thomas roberts." you can have a meet and greet. if you like music, mary j.blige is giving a meet and greet. taylor swift has given us a signed guitar. and then, if you like sports, there's lots of sports fans, opportunities. if you need to pay for all of this, you can go fly fishing with paul roker and -- >> wow, a lot of stuff. >> that's, again,
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you can come up to hien port and go sailing. harry has done that before. it's a lot of fun. >> well, we're excited about the work at the r.f.k. center. and whoever wins to go to dinner with harry belafonte, that night, they can come to "politics nation" and watch us do the show. thank you both so much for your time tonight. >> thank you, dr. sharpton. >> coming up, if it's sunday, it's newt gingrich showing he can't handle the truth. that's next. you won't take my life.
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numbers. and too often, they've gotten away with it. with stuff like this, too. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. oh, an oldie and a goodie. higher tax races cost jobs. but every now and again, their luck runs out. and then it's really fun to watch. we had one of those moments yesterday, thanks to my colleague, lawrence o'donnell. >> who said this? the tax increase will kill jobs and lead to a recession and the recession will force people out of work and onto unemployment and actually increase the deficit. that's newt gingrich in 1993 on the clinton tax increase. and those of us who were working on the other side of that tax increase, newt, have been waiting fur your apology for 20 years for being completely wrong about that. >> i still don't agree with you. >> but the economy soared.
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no one lost a job because of that tax increase. >> it's bologna, bologna. the center for american progress said republicans were proven wrong in spectacular fashion with the longest period of economic growth in u.s. history. increased business investment. 23 million jobs added. and, of course, budget surpluses. so let's recap. his only response to it is bologna. >> the response is this. you said there would be a recession. there was no recession. >> if you look at all of the indicators the day i was elected speaker, virtually all of the increase -- in fact, all of the increase in stock market is after republicans take control. >> from bologna to taking full credit. all of that economic growth? yep, we did it. but there was nowhere to run.


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